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A student's clothes
CeeBee
2162 posts Sep 07, 2008
3:15 PM
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A week or so ago, one of the Chicago newspapers featured an article, "A nation of slobs," about students' dress. A Notre Dame prof is writing a book on Americans' poor dressing habits--flip-flops, shorts, all-black clothing, schlocky t-shirts that are mass-produced, all cheaply made, boring, and ill-fitting. The author believes that, since the 1960s, Americans' clothing choices have become far too informal, too simple, and lack creativity. She remembers her male students during the 1950s who wore ties and sport coats or the females who wore dresses and nylons. One of her interviewees was a male student at the University of Illinois-Chicago who had on a t-shirt and bandanna and three-quarters-length parachute pants, and who decided what to wear from "whatever is clean." Another student wears flip-flops and jeans because if "class is boring, it's important to wear someting comfortable." My first question is, do comfortable clothes or dressy clothes influence the learning process for a student? My other question is, is a "boring" class the fault of the teacher or of the student, and who should take responsibility to improve the situation?
Last Edited on 7-Sep-2008 8:09 PM
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OldBrenda
19 posts Sep 07, 2008
5:23 PM
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About 30 years ago I would have said that clothes are superficial and have no connection with how we think or act. Now, I think the way people dress is just another indication of everything going to hell in a hand basket. Oh my gosh, I am so old.
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TheMudge
The Real Mudge 2967 posts Sep 08, 2008
10:59 AM
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Question 1 (Clothing). I'm even more of a dinosaur than Brenda, and I often think wistfully of the days when students wore more conservative attire to class and when I as the instructor was obliged to wear a jacket and tie. (The jacket invariably came off soon after class started, however.) However, I must seriously question that there's any correlation between what kids wear and how much or little they learn. Given all the other serious problems we have with our school system, what students wear is really a trivial matter. Let's focus on what does matter first. On the other hand, one argument against an "anything goes" policy is that some sort of dress code does psychologically convey a message of discipline. Restrictions on "inappropriate dress" can subtly reinforce the idea that certain kinds of behavior are also inappropriate. Of course, then we're going to have huge debates about what constitutes inappropriate dress. Having school uniforms might settle the matter, but there are pros and cons on school uniforms as well. They may act as a "social leveler" and eliminate the silly contests about who has the latest name-designer clothes, but school uniforms can be costly and can give rise to resentments about stifling freedom of expression. Yes, we've gone too far in permitting excesses under the banner of "freedom of expression," but regimentation is the opposite extreme. Question 2. (Boring Classes) This is not easy to answer, but let's first look at some of the reasons why students claim that classes are boring. From what students often say and write, I gather that they expect to be entertained, as if classes were TV shows or rock concerts. If they're in class primarily to "have fun" and be entertained, they have no idea what education is all about. Unfortunately, if one relies on students to make the class interesting (to offset the boredom), the result is a three-ring circus run by the class clowns. For a significant number of kids, the way to make class more fun and more interesting is to raise hell. It takes only a handful of hell-raisers to ruin a class for those who are there to learn and to make it impossible for the teacher to teach. That said, teachers are obligated to at least try to make their classes interesting. That's a challenge for anyone, but I think it's especially challenging for those of us who teach grammar – which is, for almost everyone but grammarians and wordsmiths, inherently boring. I could write a dissertation about the dos and don'ts, but I've learned a few general principles. Teachers' enthusiasm for their subjects can go a long way toward offsetting boredom because enthusiasm is contagious. (So is boredom; if the teacher is bored, the students will be too.) Humor is a useful tool. That's not to say that the teacher must be a stand-up comedian, but an occasional bit of comic relief goes a long way toward countering boredom. Teachers also need spontaneity to offset boredom. Nothing is more boring than the class in which the instructor does nothing but read from a book or rigidly follow a lesson plan (possibly a five-year-old lesson plan). The most interesting teachers are those who treat each class as a brand-new experience in exploring the subject, with the flexibility to pursue new angles (sometimes introduced by students). They follow a guide to keep them on target but aren't straitjacketed by prepared notes. In my opinion, teachers who teach strictly "by the book" are often insecure; teachers must know their subjects thoroughly so that they can handle any tangents that students introduce and still stay on message. ---------- Rich Turner (The Curmudgeon Himself)
Last Edited on 8-Sep-2008 11:42 AM
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Endi
378 posts Sep 08, 2008
11:23 AM
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This might be a little oblique, and might need another thread, but teaching ESOL as I do, I often get students wearing Islamic dress. It is usually the women who dress differently, male Muslims tend to wear more western clothes; they often have other issues, however. Many of the women will not be seen without a headscarf. There are women at the college where I work who wear the niqab (face veil) too, but generally they refuse point blank to be taught by a male teacher. I have never actually taught or been asked to teach a woman wearing a niqab. Recently, however, I was tasked with enrolling students. Two female students came in together wearing niqabs and I asked them to remove them because as I said, I need to see that you are who you say you are. They complied and I carried on with the enrolment process but was interrupted by one of them asking with annoyance in her voice if they could put their veils back. I said if you must and she replied it is part of our religion, I said, actually it isn't because the Koran says, "Leave uncovered only that which is apparent," but this isn't the time to discuss this, if you want to cover up I won't stop you but it is rude. [If you need to check, by the way, it's Sura al-Nur, verses 30-31]. They covered up and I continued but they were audibly annoyed (not visibly, I couldn't see that. That's not quite true I could see their body language but not their facial expressions).
Last Edited on 8-Sep-2008 11:32 AM
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OldGuy
95 posts Oct 03, 2008
7:29 PM
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Mudge wrote, “Teachers' enthusiasm for their subjects can go a long way toward offsetting boredom because enthusiasm is contagious.” I am not a teacher by trade, though I have done a fair amount of teaching, but I would like to relate to you who are teachers something I observed. I wish I could show it to you on videotape. Our local historical society was sponsoring a “Pioneer Day” for all the fourth grade students of the county. It was a “country fair” type of program, held at the county fairgrounds. The classes from each school were rotated through a number of stations, where volunteers showed the children how things used to be done in times past. My wife and I were asked to demonstrate how sauerkraut was made, since we still do that for ourselves each fall. Having all the necessary equipment and cabbage, we put down a 10-gallon crock of kraut, with each class observing every step of the process. I explained, asked questions, and answered questions as we went along. So we were seeing in front of us, and communicating with, each school’s class for nearly half an hour. One spirited teacher led her charges to the bleacher at a lively step, and as they were getting seated she fired questions such as, “What do you expect to learn here?” Many hands shot up to answer. I explained how this was once a food preserving process done in many homes, and how we can have sauerkraut with our wieners or on Reuben sandwiches because of bacteria. I asked if anyone might be able to name other foods that were made using microorganisms. Cheese! Yogurt! Cottage cheese! Bread! Beer! Wine! These kids were junior microbiologists! They gathered around for a closer look with great interest when the time came. When I was finished, the teacher used what time was left to ask more questions about what they had learned, and the responses were again spirited, rapid, and numerous. It was gratifying! Another group came along, from one of the more high-class communities no less. The only adverb to describe their assembling on the bleacher was “grudgingly.” They all looked as if they had been ordered to be there against their wishes. Most notable were the teacher and her assistant. They both sat with their faces propped in their hands nearly the whole time, staring left or right toward far-off places, communicating their wishes to be somewhere else. There were no questions from the children, and the little response to anything I asked did not indicate much prior enlightenment. There was little interest shown when the time came to see the tools and kraut close up. They left without a word from the teachers other than what was necessary to move them. These instructors of a couple dozen students each were outstanding. They were teaching very effectively that day. It was evident they had been teaching just as effectively all along. That teaching was not from their schoolbooks. But the visible difference in the lessons and the effects that would certainly remain with the children were astounding!
Last Edited on 3-Oct-2008 7:43 PM
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