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Self-Service
TheMudge
The Real Mudge
2710 post s
12-May-2008
7:54 PM
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Here's another grumble on The Mudgelog – The Self-Service Myth. Scroll down to May 12. Comments are welcome and appreciated. ---------- Rich Turner (The Curmudgeon Himself)
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Bradd
471 post s
13-May-2008
1:19 AM
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I have to smile at your latest outrage, Rich. Yeah, it's all smoke and mirrors. The consumer is always at the mercy of the advertisers, the vendors, the whatever else you can think of when it comes to laying out a buck. I remember so clearly in Detroit in the late 1970's where I first encountered automatic teller machines. They were sold as a wonderful new technology that would reduce the need for human tellers and reduce the cost of doing banking. In reality, they increased the bottom line of the banks but did little to make my banking any cheaper. Likewise, the gasoline self-service schtick was promoted as not only reducing prices but reducing the occupational hazard of employees breathing in the gasoline fumes. New Jerseys low (relatively) gas prices are a result of its being a huge depository of gasoline in the eastern part of the state. Distribution costs are lower, reflected in the prices at the pump. Nothing to do with self-service, or, in the case of New Jersey, its mandated full-service. The supermarket self-checkout is my favorite. When I first encountered this about three years ago and was encouraged to use the system by an employee, I inquired whether I would receive a discount on my groceries equal to the minimum wage being paid to the check-out folks. My tongue-in-cheek request was met with a stony smile. Some people have no sense of humor. As bizarre as it sounds, there was a time when the mantra for retail stores was, "The customer is always right". Somewhere along the line this changed to, "Screw the customer. There are plenty more where he came from". As the Wal-Marts of the world continue to stifle competition and drive out the competition, the situation gets worse and worse. However, there is a bright spot in all this. Internet sales are booming and geometrically increasing annually. It is simple to compare prices and order accordingly. My own experience with on-line customer service has been amazing. Problems are resolved immediately and the consumer is treated with a regard that the "box" stores have long discarded. I suspect that this has something to do with the huge number of on-line stores offering similar products. Food and gasoline, of course, don't lend themselves to this kind of marketing - yet. But I have no doubt some young entrepreneur somewhere is working on this very problem, even as I type. Gourmet food is already easily available on the net. Ordinary day-to-day food shopping can't be far behind.
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Pogo
380 post s
13-May-2008
9:11 AM
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My usual grocery store has the lowest prices around, especially on house-brand items, which are very good. Lots of people in store clothing re-stocking, working the registers, bagging -- always ready to answer questions and direct customers. And they all speak English! It's a privately owned chain that began with a store in Kerrville, Texas, in 1905, and now has stores all over Texas and in Mexico. The founder's son, father of the current CEO, lived by the motto "He profits most who serves best."
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CeeBee
1738 post s
13-May-2008
9:40 AM
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For about ten years, one of our major grocery chains has an "ordinary day-to-day food shopping" service called PeaPod. Everything is online--the grocery choices, ordering, payment, delivery options--and can be purchased for delivery to one's home or business. PeaPod service is also available in New England and along the Atlantic coast from Giant and Stop & Shop grocery chains. Check PeaPod's nifty web site for details.
Last Edited on 13-May-2008 11:05 AM
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CeeBee
1739 post s
13-May-2008
9:53 AM
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(FYI, I work at a public library.) Our library director wants our smallish, not-very-busy public library to be like the big, busy libraries (or Wal*Mart?) by installing several self-checkout machines. She doesn't want to hear about area libraries whose regular patrons carefully avoid self-checkout because of frequent malfunctions and lack of personal contact with staff. (Isn't that what we are mainly there to do?--share the joys of reading and books???) What's especially interesting is that this same library director has declared the first Friday in June to be an In-Service Day. The library will be closed for staff training to teach us how to become a friendlier library.
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TheMudge
The Real Mudge
2712 post s
13-May-2008
2:13 PM
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On CeeBee's post: Good grief! What's next? Self-service diagnoses in medical offices? Self-service confessionals in Catholic churches? Bravo to Bradd on his observations. I too have had surprisingly good service from online retailers. Ironically, the main exceptions are computer companies and Internet providers. Don't know how much the proximity to gas supplies explains Jersey's low prices, however. Prices in nearby states (NY, PA) are much higher. Now, if we're all so damned sick of self-serve rip-offs, why are we putting up with this balderdash? Why aren't the self-checkouts virtually empty? ---------- Rich Turner (The Curmudgeon Himself)
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CeeBee
1742 post s
13-May-2008
4:35 PM
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Mudge asked, "Self-service diagnoses in medical offices?" Actually, more and more patients google what they think is wrong with them and then visit the doctor to inform him what's wrong and advise which med to prescribe. Our library director believes that "young people" who are probably in a hurry to return to their fulfilling lives will enjoy using self-checkout machines.
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John
313 post s
14-May-2008
11:51 AM
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I live in Oregon,and I love our non- self-service gas. Many stations in Oregon still clean your windshield and check your oil. It's impossible to tell its effect on price, as the main things making a difference from place to place are taxes, and as Brad said proximity to distribution points. But gas in Oregon is still cheaper than in Washington or California. Every few years someone introduces a bill to change our system. But it is always voted down by an overwhelming margin. I avoid self-checkouts at the store too.
Last Edited on 14-May-2008 11:52 AM
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