TheMudge
The Real Mudge
2472 post s
29-Dec-2007
8:12 AM
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To close out the year, let's hear it for the language manglers: > A student writes about "our fast-paste society." This is the kind of mistake that gets me unglued. > One of the registrants at this site reports that a registered nurse referred to a "staff infection," and the nurse didn't mean something that was infecting workers at the hospital. If the nurse is ignorant of the term "staph," what else was missing in his/her medical training? > The Associated Press reported that the San Francisco zoo was having problems because its tigers were mauling their feeders. The AP article said that the problem was solved by installing a "feeding shoot." Well, we guess that should teach those tigers to behave. > A student writes about drivers who "make rude jesters at other drivers. Not funny, those rude jesters. > Another writes about the "on trays at the school cafeteria." Well, I guess they are on trays. > One of my favorites is the one by a student who was arguing that the Boy Scouts should expel a scout who was an atheist. "Yes," he wrote, "This man should certainly be dismembered." (That's one I'll always remember.) ---------- Rich Turner (The Curmudgeon Himself)
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CeeBee
1425 post s
29-Dec-2007
11:22 AM
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"I've done a lot of sole searching." (Which fish market?) "I scream, you scream, we all scream for ice cream." "I've had a lot of patients with him." (What is your medical speciality?) "I could hardly bare it." (I understand your reluctance to disrobe.)
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Endi
277 post s
30-Dec-2007
9:52 AM
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Then there's, "I'm a child now but I'm looking forward to my adultery." Patient: Doctor, I think I'm a pair of curtains. Doctor: Pull yourself together, man! The worst one is those who think "should have" is actually "should of". A fair few think it is.
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OldGuy
36 post s
30-Dec-2007
6:32 PM
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One I used to hear often in management meetings was, "It's a mute point." (I guess it had little to say for itself.)
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Endi
278 post s
31-Dec-2007
7:29 AM
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OldGuy wrote: One I used to hear often in management meetings was, "It's a mute point." (I guess it had little to say for itself.)This one's only a problem in Old World English in North America "Moot" and "Mute" sound the same.
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Pogo
169 post s
31-Dec-2007
8:04 AM
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"Moot" poses another problem: what does it mean? Most of the time I see it, the author seems to mean that the question or situation or problem is settled, that no argument or discussion is necessary. American Heritage: moot
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Sapninman
346 post s
31-Dec-2007
11:32 AM
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This one's only a problem in Old World English in North America "Moot" and "Mute" sound the same. Endi: As a lifelong U.S. resident, I recognize the pronunciation difference between moot and mute, as does the American Heritage Dictionary (my underlining). You can use Pogo's link to check the moot pronunciation and, in the same dictionary (AHD), this link to reach the mute pronunciation.
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CeeBee
1433 post s
31-Dec-2007
4:57 PM
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The moot/mute pronunciation difference reminds me of my former boss. She insisted (even stomped her foot!) that "cupola" is pronounced "COO-pah-lah". I argued that it is pronounced "CUE-pah-lah". Interestingly, her last name is Buhse, pronounced "BUE-see". I started calling her Mrs. BOO-see.
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Endi
279 post s
1-Jan-2008
10:01 AM
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Sapninman, I stand corrected. My assumptions were wrong.
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CeeBee
1503 post s
18-Jan-2008
10:45 AM
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Glimpsed on a Q&A site today, in reference to a relationship that went sour -- "the whole sorted affair"
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CeeBee
1517 post s
2-Feb-2008
12:28 PM
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Posted today on that same Q&A site -- "she never medaled in my affairs"
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TheMudge
The Real Mudge
2542 post s
3-Feb-2008
10:44 PM
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A recent student contribution: In an essay on education, a student wrote about the "ten year plan" for teachers. Never having heard of such a plan, I was puzzled until I realized that the student meant tenure. On a less sophisticated level (and just a spelling error rather than a malaprop), another student wrote about "teaching classes in collages." Here's a college student who doesn't know how to spell college. I wonder if he knows what a collage is. I doubt it. ---------- Rich Turner (The Curmudgeon Himself)
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CeeBee
1524 post s
4-Feb-2008
1:17 PM
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I would guess these people don't read either. Even reading the newspaper every day or Newsweek once a week (or The Week, yyyaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy!!) would put in front of their faces these fairly common words and phrases that would be spelled correctly. Although, the eyes of Mudge's "ten-year" student would probably skip right over the word "tenure."
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OldGuy
51 post s
4-Feb-2008
4:34 PM
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Of course your student knows what a collage is, Mudge. He goes to one. I don't understand the psychology of it, but some people simply cannot understand or be corrected. I remember an individual who was interested in "chromatics." You know, making things of fired clay. She also would say that some problems were "many-fauceted." Some people were irked when their names were grossly mispronounced again and again. But there was no changing her. By the way, I'm probably wasting space here, but if anyone seeing this has not read Richard Lederer's "Anguished English," you'd best not fail to do so.
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TheMudge
The Real Mudge
2545 post s
5-Feb-2008
7:35 AM
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Wotcha gonna due? – as my students would write. As CeeBee says, these people don't read or, if they do, pay little attention to the spelling in what they read. One of the first lessons I must give to these "collage" students is that grammar has no e and that English is always capitalized. I heartily endorse Old Guy's recommendation of Richard Lederer's Anguished English, published in 1987, especially the chapter that gives a history of the world as told in student bloopers. Also available: More Anguished English (Delacorte Press: 1993). ---------- Rich Turner (The Curmudgeon Himself)
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CeeBee
1545 post s
16-Feb-2008
3:14 PM
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*sigh* I came across another one. my denist replied that i didnot need a crown on my tooth because it was loose and needs to be distracted.
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TheMudge
The Real Mudge
2622 post s
28-Mar-2008
11:16 PM
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It was bound to happen sooner of later. In an essay on capital punishment, a student writes, "Our four fathers never explained cruel and unusual crimes to us." ---------- Rich Turner (The Curmudgeon Himself)
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CeeBee
1600 post s
29-Mar-2008
11:22 AM
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What were their names, I wonder? It again hits me--people must not read literate printed material.
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OldGuy
58 post s
29-Mar-2008
7:20 PM
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That's a fact, CeeBee. Some people, though schooled, cannot read, or cannot read well. Some read, but do not comprehend. And some read in only a very narrow vein or field. The worst are those who simply do not read, and thus have little advantage over those who cannot. (I believe it was Ben Franklin who first made that point.) But with TV and cell phones and fun living, who really needs to read? That appears more and more to be the feeling. I remember one individual who seemed practically proud of the fact that he never read anything except maybe a little of the local newspaper (not a very rich source of useful knowledge or lexicon, especially since voice recognition and spell checkers came along). And I have been meaning to ask (maybe with tongue in cheek)--do you think libraries are in danger of becoming little more than free video outlets, or are movies at least a way of getting people into the building?
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CeeBee
1603 post s
31-Mar-2008
12:00 AM
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I am a member of several Q&A sites and have noticed a deterioration of writing into chat-speak. In fact, once or twice I have rewritten in good English and then reposted the original chat-speak question so anyone over 45 is able to read it and possibly respond. (I was even thanked for doing this.) As to your question, OldGuy, at the library where I work we purchase and add 100 or more DVDs per month. Because of a liberal checkout and renewal time period, rarely do they sit long on the shelf. Approximately 200 non-fiction books are purchased every month. The majority of them end up in the 600s -- the "how-to" section (635 gardening, 636 domestic animals and their care, 641 cookbooks, and 746 needlework and sewing). Others end up in 378 (study guides for AP exams, the SAT, ACT, GRE, LSAT, GMAT, MCAT, etc.), 914 for world travel and 917 for U.S. travel, 930-999 for world history. The new fiction added are usually multiple copies of bestsellers or new novels by authors who've produced bestsellers in the past and have name recognition. People still read, but we don't see the research going on like we did in the '80s. Then libraries were filled in the evenings with students of all ages working on book reports and term papers, desperately searching for books to use for notecard-filling-out. The only students we see now on a regular basis are Asian ones. Our book purchases are highly practical titles. In a month's time, we may add only one or two poetry books, a few new plays, a few books in the religion section (books by the Dalai Lama and the Pope are always good choices, and definitely new titles by atheists), bestselling titles in the political arena, perhaps Bill Cosby's or Jeff Foxworthy's newest book, and a few new biographies. As you can see, there's not much of a challenge to the reader. Libraries are finding that they must reinvent themselves. Serious research is rarely done any longer in a public library; serious reading of the classics or of a demanding author is nearly unheard of. No one thinks any longer. They want to "do" (plant a garden, make the baby stop crying at night, build a deck, avoid paying a mechanic, learn how to care for their new basset hound puppy) and "escape" (manga or graphic novels and feature movies). The public library used to be the community hub. You'd bring your child to the library to work on his book report (due tomorrow) and meet up with other parents whose children were doing the same thing. (Now students copy and paste off the Internet.) It was like going to the grocery store or church; you'd see half the town at the library. How can libraries become that hub again when patrons grab a few DVDs or bestsellers and leave? One of the possibilities is to bring in the children. That means having lots of interesting things for them to do when they visit and special programs to bring them there in the first place. Another attraction would be literacy helps and programs for the many immigrants who probably have library cards but are not sure how to use the library and all the wonders it contains, who are not comfortable enough with English to ask questions of a librarian or even a circulation clerk at the front desk. Book discussion groups bring in especially women, so that's a possibility for reestablishing the library as a community hub. Adult programming must become a priority, to get people into the library somehow so they will realize there are other things they can do there. As I write this, my older son, who also works in a public library, said that DVDs and books on CD are the two most popular formats that circulate at his workplace. I will have to agree with him. Last Thursday, I added 26 new adult and children's books on CD, mostly current bestsellers and Disney titles. I would guess they are listened to mostly while driving. Audio-visual formats have at least temporarily taken over in popularity. Patrons still say, though, that the Kindle will never replace a real book. That tactile and general sensory experience of a book is unique!
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OldGuy
59 post s
31-Mar-2008
7:38 PM
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CeeBee, yours are the somewhat disheartening observations I would expect. But one thing seems certain--you know your business! I'm once again reminded by all this of my late uncle I mentioned quite some time back, who had an eighth grade, one room school education. His spelling, grammar and composition were excellent. "I read every book in the school bookcase, and I read everything that gets in front of me now--books, papers, cereal boxes, whatever." Decent writing is dependent on reading. Sticking a DVD in the player, or a bud in one's ear, like the robot R2D2 plugging into a data port to upload, won't do the job.
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